Illusions, Thor. A trick is something a whore does for money…or candy
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perfect post.I was reading the Thor: the movie kids novel and it was like “Thor was like…
UGH IT ALL MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE! ALSO, Laufey called Odin a thief. Makes you wonder if he was just talking about the Casket, y/n?
I mean, makes me wonder if the writers actually intended people to think so hard about this whole thing and interpret it as Odin being so full of fail, because I know I sure as hell bought his story. Didn’t stop me from liking Loki, but I bought it. And here I was just along for the ride! MY WORLD IS CHANGING.
LOOOL SO MANY THINGS I TAKE FROM AND LOVE IN THIS MOVIE THAT I DOUBT WERE INTENDED. ~*~ The Magic of Fiction ~*~
At any rate, I don’t think Laufey had any idea Loki was his son. He specifically calls Odin a murderer and a thief. Thief is obviously for the casket, but murderer doesn’t make any sense in the context of war. Especially a war that Laufey, for all intents and purposes, initiated. So I choose to read it that Laufey believes that when Odin went into the temple that day and stole the casket, he also killed Laufey’s son who was hidden there.
It’s also easy to read that pain over loss of a child into his exchange with Thor when he warns Thor that if he doesn’t leave (and thus Laufey has to kill him) Thor doesn’t understand what he would be unleashing, but Laufey does.
I was reading the Thor: the movie kids novel and it was like “Thor was like Odin but Loki was much closer to his mother” AND I ASDFK;AJLSDGJKL;ASDKFGJSLD
OH OH OH and let me take this opportunity to add to my many excessive thoughts about Asgardian royal family values re: Odin Is The Worst Dad.
I know that a lot of people take Odin at face value wrt his feelings for Loki, I guess, and go OH HE REALLY DIDN’T TELL LOKI BECAUSE HE JUST LOVED HIM and LOKI WAS JUST TWISTING HIS WORDS LIKE HE SAID despite the meaningful repetition of “He always does things for a reason,” even though he tried initially to deny it to Loki by calling him son, even while Loki demanded to know WHAT MORE THAN THAT because there had to be more than that and they both knew it.
But, you guys, like you understand what he did right? You understand what his plan was?
He stole a baby, not just any baby, but the King of Jotunheim’s son, and raised it as Asgardian with the intention of “making a permanent peace” through Loki and he would have done it, if not for Thor and company’s trip to Jotunheim that shattered the truce.
Let that sink in.
The only way Loki is valuable for making permanent peace is if Odin reveals him as Laufey’s lost heir. (Which is why btw I call UNRELIABLE NARRATOR BULLSHIT on ~abandoned~ and ~left to die~ because YOU CANNOT MAKE PEACE THROUGH A BABY THEY DIDN’T FUCKING WANT.) He was making Thor king, so obviously, the time for the fruition of this plan was near.
And what was this plan exactly for permanent peace through Loki? IT COULD ONLY BE TO DEPOSE LAUFEY AND THEN PUT LOKI, LAUFEY’S RIGHTFUL HEIR, IN HIS PLACE.
~making a permanent peace~
with a King of Jotunheim Odin raised away from his home because he thought that they were too cruel or barbaric or wtfever for any other kind of diplomacy.
~making a permanent peace~
with a King of Jotunheim who would hate his own people and think them monsters that needed to be controlled and contained and feared because that’s all he’s ever known and no one ever bothered to try to get him to think otherwise.
~making a permanent peace~
by having stolen
a King of Jotunheim that would bow to Asgard.
MAN THAT ODIN SURE IS A KEEPER, ISN’T HE?
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NOOOOOOO. I need to know your Frigga (and Frigga and Loki) feelings after watching them. I have so many feelings and no one understands. TELL ME YOU UNDERSTAND RAWLES.
Omg. Okay so, hahaha I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT FRIGG(A) (looool when i first started writing thor fic i didn’t know whether they’d anglicized her name or not in the film and i went with NON-ANGLICIZED bcs i liked it better and now that is all i use ever and sometimes i think someone out there must think that i just don’t know how to spell her name /ASIDE) and about her and her baby boy.
LOVED LOVED her confronting Odin about banishing Thor scene because we all focus a lot on how shitty a dad Odin is to Loki, but let’s face it: HE IS A SUPER FUCKING SHITTY DAD TO THOR AS WELL. Like all the things Odin berates Thor for, all the things Thor is, do you think he learned that shit ALL BY HIMSELF? Or is it possible, just POSSIBLE, that Odin clearly favoring him and treating him like the perfect golden child to the extent of being ready to MAKE HIM KING even though he knew what the boy was like was, you know, ENCOURAGING THOSE QUALITIES IN THOR THAT ODIN THEN BANISHES HIM FOR ONCE THOR TAKES THEM TO THEIR LOGICAL CONCLUSION? Odin is basically just really good at teaching his sons shit and punishing them for the way that he raised them. WORST DAD. WOOORST. But anyway about Frigg, I love that she lays into him about the fact that he EXILED HIS SON. I mean, gosh, you couldn’t have like sent him to his room? PUt off his coronation? Made Loki heir (looool of course not BECAUSE HE COULD NEVER HAVE A FROST GIANT ON THE THRONE OF ASGARD)? Nope just… strip him of his power and banish him to some ridic backwater to fend for himself. WHY NOT. MAKES SENSE.
And lol I could go on… forever. About the full version of the scene with Frigg and Loki in Odin’s bedchamber. I know everyone is super like WHY WASN’T THE BROTHERS SCENE FROM THE BEGINNING IN THE MOVIE?!?! and you know I agree. I would have loved for that scene to be in the movie because it’s fan-fucking-tastic and ugh brothers ;__; and they are best friends and they love each other and they pick on each other as siblings do (such perfect sibling interaction lol reflecting my life i love them so ugh) and it’s perfect.
BUT I legitimately think the movie feels LESS COMPLETE for not including the full version of Loki and Frigg and Loki’s coronation. Not only does it illuminate so much more clearly (for people who missed it I guess) that Loki NEVER WANTED TO BE KING and certainly hadn’t been at all PLOTTING TOWARDS IT, but it’s Frigg who does this. It’s Frigg who declares him King of Asgard because he’s her son and she really does love him. She really does think of him no differently than Thor and she really does believe in his ability and his worth. And god when she says that she always wanted to tell him, but Odin said no. YES MY HEADCANON.
Actually everything about that scene, about Frigg being comforting and kind and really just loving her son, her baby boy, is all my headcanon? About their relationship, about how Loki interacts with her as opposed to Odin. ALL OF IT.
(Also someone remind me to write a fic or something someday about Odin’s previous Odinsleep, since Loki references having seen him like that before, when Thor and Loki were kids and thus FRIGG RULED ASGARD AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.)
Uh, so, yeah. I UNDERSTAND.
"my queen," looking down sadly, voice thick with emotion, "i am so sorry for your loss."
frigg rubs her arm comfortingly
sif looks at her, throat working for just a second
rawles’s life is destroyed forever
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
WHY WOULD YOU STEAL A BABY
AND TEACH IT TO HATE ITSELF
and then when he’s looking for you to approve of him FOR JUST A MOMENT
SO THAT HE CAN STOP IMPLODING
and you just go
YOU DIDN’T EVEN HAVE TO FUCKING MEAN IT
JUST WAIT UNTIL HE’S NOT HANGING OVER A GODDAMNED ABYSS
and then you stand looking stupid after he KILLS HIMSELF
fffffff what did you expect
"i’m not your brother. I NEVER WAS."
"IS IT MADNESS? IS IT????"
as he cries
the climax of his movie-long emotional breakdown
this poor baby boy
so full of self-hatred that he literally kills his father
to erase that part of himself
just jumping off of rooftops impaling destroyers like it’s no big
Just a black, queerdo millennial trying to be a dope person.
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